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Bret Burquest

Flight of the Doomed

Posted Friday, September 9, 2011, at 4:32 PM
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  • "...The official government explanation for the series of events of 9/11 simply don't pass the smell test..."

    Mind Bret, I simply do not know.

    The only (presumably a quasi fighter) jet I can think of resembling what you've described would be a T-38. "White, engines alongside, at the rear." But T-38s operating in US airspace - so far as I'm aware of - are unarmed.

    As far as Rumsfeld making an 'off-the-cuff' remark, ill-informed or not, in those early days there were quite a number of what in hindsight proved to be a great many "ill-informed" remarks. WMD in Iraq for instance.

    From George Friedman of STRATFOR:

    "...Of course, there are those who believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy carried out by the CIA in order to justify interference in our liberty. But an organization as capable as they believe the CIA is would not need a justification to abridge liberty. That was a lot of work to justify something, and the truly powerful don't need to justify anything. Nor do they need to leave people who are revealing the truth alive. It is striking that the "doubters" believe 9/11 was created in order to crush American freedoms but that the conspirators are so incompetent they cannot shut down those who have discovered the conspiracy and are telling the world about it. Personally, if I were interested in global domination triggered by a covert act like 9/11, I would silence those revealing my secret. But then I'm not that good at it, and the doubters all have reasons why they are blogging the truth and are not dead or languishing in a concentration camp. ..."

    http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110905-911-and-successful-war

    I can posit a possible explanation for the expanse of the debris field - the aircraft exceeded it's speed envelope and broke up mid air. Passenger aircraft after all are not designed for areobatics.

    Nothing I write detracts from the heroism displayed on Flight 93.

    -- Posted by HDucker on Mon, Sep 12, 2011, at 4:38 PM
  • ".. I was watching it while eating breakfast. ..."

    "[Rumsfeld] In his remarks, he included a phrase about the tragedy of the airliner (Flight 93) which included these exact words about how sad it was that we had "shot down the plane over Pennsylvania."

    From the CNN transcript:

    "...And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word "terrorized" is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be. ..."

    Geez, I dunno Bret. Hearing Rumsfeld speak while crunching a mouthful of Corn Flakes... hearing, as you describe it, "a diatribe" containing 'I think' - 'we imagine' - 'the people who bombed... did the bombing... attacked... shot down the plane' - seems a bit ambiguous to me.

    I don't recall Rumsfeld's precise words but I do recall him asking (rhetorically, I hope) "How many jars could the museum in Baghdad have had?"

    -- Posted by HDucker on Mon, Sep 12, 2011, at 8:40 PM
  • Those in high places, scheming to control the world, don't need to kill those who attempt to reveal the schemes -- all they need to do is portray them as conspiracy nuts. If you start killing all the conspiracy nuts, you draw attention to the conspiracy. Most people would rather remain in the comfort (safety) of their own personal lives than to contemplate that they are enslaved pawns of powerful puppet masters behind closed doors.

    There are those who lust for wealth and power, including some of the most powerful and influential people on this planet who desire to control the entire world -- and some of them don't give a **** about how to accomplish their goals.

    It's human nature -- some people are driven by greed -- some of them accumulate vast amounts of wealth and power -- and there is no end game except to win it all (total control).

    I seriously doubt that the CIA or other U.S. government officials engineered the 9/11 attack, but there is considerable evidence that certain powerful people knew about it in advanced based on stock market transactions just prior to the attacks -- massive profits were made by people with tons of money, directed as "PUT" calls in the markets against the airline company involved and the insurance company involved just prior to the event -- highly unlikely a coincidence and wasn't financially accomplished by 19 goons with box cutters either.

    Many, many questions... BB

    -- Posted by Bret Burquest on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 2:08 PM
  • As I stated Bret,

    I - simply - do - not - know.

    I guess I'm just one of those incurious people, head-in-the-sand types who doesn't spend much time working myself into frenzied "They're flying black helicopters over me trying to find where I've buried my gold so they can add my teeny tiny amount of gold to their tons of the stuff" kinda guy.

    Now if "they" were to try to take control of all the beer in the world, I might get a little more excited.

    But I do agree, "Many, many questions".

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/09/07/123431/fbi-probe-into-homes-link-to-911.ht...

    http://www.fpri.org/enotes/2011/201109.husick.911.html

    -- Posted by HDucker on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 4:51 PM
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